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March 8, 2007
U.S.: Iraqi Insurgent Attacks Intensifying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 7:18 a.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)
Military force alone is ''not sufficient'' to end the violence in Iraq and
political talks must eventually include some militant groups now opposing
the U.S.-backed government, the new commander of U.S. forces in Iraq said
Thursday.
''This is critical,'' U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said in his first news
conference since taking over command last month. He noted that such
political negotiations ''will determine in the long run the success of this
effort.''
American troops have stepped up efforts to clear and secure major highways
around the capital as part of the Baghdad security crackdown, which began
last month. The Pentagon has pledged 17,500 combat troops for the capital.
Petraeus said Thursday ''it was very likely'' that additional U.S. forces
will be sent to areas outside the capital where militant groups are
regrouping, including the Diyala province northeast of Baghdad.
The region has become an increasingly important staging ground for groups
including al-Qaida in Iraq. Meanwhile, many Sunni extremists apparently have
shifted to Diyala to escape the Baghdad clampdown.
Petraeus declined to predict the size of the expected Diyala reinforcements.
One of Iraq's most expansive militias -- the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite
cleric Muqtada al-Sadr -- appears to have set aside its weapons under
intense government pressure to lend support to the Baghdad security plan.
Mahdi militiamen also have allowed Iraqi authorities to try to protect at
least 1 million pilgrims heading to Karbala, about 50 miles south of
Baghdad.
Many are making the traditional trek on foot for rituals beginning Friday to
mark the end of a 40-day mourning period for Imam Hussein, grandson of the
Prophet Muhammad. Hussein's death in a 7th-century battle near Karbala
cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites.
The processions have proved to be vulnerable targets, with attacks killing
more than 170 people this week.
Al-Sadr issued a statement urging pilgrims to join in chants denouncing the
attackers. ''I ask almighty God to protect you from the sectarian
sedition,'' said the message.
Petraeus denounced the ''thugs with no soul'' who have targeted Shiite
pilgrims. ''We share the horror'' of witnessing the suicide bombings and
shootings, he said.
He said U.S. forces are ready to help provide additional security for the
pilgrims if asked by Iraqi authorities.
''It is an enormous task to protect all of them and there is a point at
which if someone is willing to blow up himself ... the problem becomes very,
very difficult indeed,'' he said.
Security forces in Karbala have taken unprecedented measures, including
checkpoints for top-to-bottom searches and a six-ring cordon around the two
main Shiite shrines. At least 10,000 policemen have been placed on
round-the-clock patrols.
''All the city's entrances have been secured, and I call upon the pilgrims
to follow the instructions of the security forces and let them do the
necessary searches,'' Iraq's minister of state for national security,
Sherwan al-Waili, said in Karbala.
In Baghdad, a mortar attack shattered some windows at the Iraqi Airways
office on the airport compound, but the shells landed hundreds of yards from
the passenger terminal and caused no serious flight disruptions.
Such attacks, however, send chills through Iraqi officials preparing to host
an international conference Saturday on ways to help rebuild and stabilize
the country.
The meeting will bring Iran and the United States to the same table for the
first time in more than two years. Washington cut diplomatic ties with
Tehran after the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radicals in the wake the
1979 Islamic Revolution.
The United States has accused Iran of backing anti-American Shiite militants
in Iraq, has detained Iranian officials there and has angered Tehran by
beefing up its military presence in the Persian Gulf. Washington is also
pushing for new sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program.
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday that his country
hoped ''the conference will bring forward the end of the presence of foreign
forces'' in Iraq -- reiterating Tehran's stance that U.S. troops should
withdraw. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: How's the "surge" going? |
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On Mar 8, 4:56 am, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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March 8, 2007
U.S.: Iraqi Insurgent Attacks Intensifying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 7:18 a.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)
Military force alone is ''not sufficient'' to end the violence in Iraq and
political talks must eventually include some militant groups now opposing
the U.S.-backed government, the new commander of U.S. forces in Iraq said
Thursday.
''This is critical,'' U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said in his first news
conference since taking over command last month. He noted that such
political negotiations ''will determine in the long run the success of this
effort.''
American troops have stepped up efforts to clear and secure major highways
around the capital as part of the Baghdad security crackdown, which began
last month. The Pentagon has pledged 17,500 combat troops for the capital.
Petraeus said Thursday ''it was very likely'' that additional U.S. forces
will be sent to areas outside the capital where militant groups are
regrouping, including the Diyala province northeast of Baghdad.
The region has become an increasingly important staging ground for groups
including al-Qaida in Iraq. Meanwhile, many Sunni extremists apparently have
shifted to Diyala to escape the Baghdad clampdown.
Petraeus declined to predict the size of the expected Diyala reinforcements.
One of Iraq's most expansive militias -- the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite
cleric Muqtada al-Sadr -- appears to have set aside its weapons under
intense government pressure to lend support to the Baghdad security plan.
Mahdi militiamen also have allowed Iraqi authorities to try to protect at
least 1 million pilgrims heading to Karbala, about 50 miles south of
Baghdad.
Many are making the traditional trek on foot for rituals beginning Friday to
mark the end of a 40-day mourning period for Imam Hussein, grandson of the
Prophet Muhammad. Hussein's death in a 7th-century battle near Karbala
cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites.
The processions have proved to be vulnerable targets, with attacks killing
more than 170 people this week.
Al-Sadr issued a statement urging pilgrims to join in chants denouncing the
attackers. ''I ask almighty God to protect you from the sectarian
sedition,'' said the message.
Petraeus denounced the ''thugs with no soul'' who have targeted Shiite
pilgrims. ''We share the horror'' of witnessing the suicide bombings and
shootings, he said.
He said U.S. forces are ready to help provide additional security for the
pilgrims if asked by Iraqi authorities.
''It is an enormous task to protect all of them and there is a point at
which if someone is willing to blow up himself ... the problem becomes very,
very difficult indeed,'' he said.
Security forces in Karbala have taken unprecedented measures, including
checkpoints for top-to-bottom searches and a six-ring cordon around the two
main Shiite shrines. At least 10,000 policemen have been placed on
round-the-clock patrols.
''All the city's entrances have been secured, and I call upon the pilgrims
to follow the instructions of the security forces and let them do the
necessary searches,'' Iraq's minister of state for national security,
Sherwan al-Waili, said in Karbala.
In Baghdad, a mortar attack shattered some windows at the Iraqi Airways
office on the airport compound, but the shells landed hundreds of yards from
the passenger terminal and caused no serious flight disruptions.
Such attacks, however, send chills through Iraqi officials preparing to host
an international conference Saturday on ways to help rebuild and stabilize
the country.
The meeting will bring Iran and the United States to the same table for the
first time in more than two years. Washington cut diplomatic ties with
Tehran after the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radicals in the wake the
1979 Islamic Revolution.
The United States has accused Iran of backing anti-American Shiite militants
in Iraq, has detained Iranian officials there and has angered Tehran by
beefing up its military presence in the Persian Gulf. Washington is also
pushing for new sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program.
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday that his country
hoped ''the conference will bring forward the end of the presence of foreign
forces'' in Iraq -- reiterating Tehran's stance that U.S. troops should
withdraw.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: How's the "surge" going? |
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Avidbuff wrote:
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On Mar 8, 4:56 am, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
March 8, 2007
U.S.: Iraqi Insurgent Attacks Intensifying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 7:18 a.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)
Military force alone is ''not sufficient'' to end the violence in
Iraq and political talks must eventually include some militant
groups now opposing the U.S.-backed government, the new commander of
U.S. forces in Iraq said Thursday.
''This is critical,'' U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said in his first news
conference since taking over command last month. He noted that such
political negotiations ''will determine in the long run the success
of this effort.''
American troops have stepped up efforts to clear and secure major
highways around the capital as part of the Baghdad security
crackdown, which began last month. The Pentagon has pledged 17,500
combat troops for the capital.
Petraeus said Thursday ''it was very likely'' that additional U.S.
forces will be sent to areas outside the capital where militant
groups are regrouping, including the Diyala province northeast of
Baghdad.
The region has become an increasingly important staging ground for
groups including al-Qaida in Iraq. Meanwhile, many Sunni extremists
apparently have shifted to Diyala to escape the Baghdad clampdown.
Petraeus declined to predict the size of the expected Diyala
reinforcements.
One of Iraq's most expansive militias -- the Mahdi Army of radical
Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr -- appears to have set aside its
weapons under intense government pressure to lend support to the
Baghdad security plan.
Mahdi militiamen also have allowed Iraqi authorities to try to
protect at least 1 million pilgrims heading to Karbala, about 50
miles south of Baghdad.
Many are making the traditional trek on foot for rituals beginning
Friday to mark the end of a 40-day mourning period for Imam Hussein,
grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. Hussein's death in a 7th-century
battle near Karbala cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites.
The processions have proved to be vulnerable targets, with attacks
killing more than 170 people this week.
Al-Sadr issued a statement urging pilgrims to join in chants
denouncing the attackers. ''I ask almighty God to protect you from
the sectarian sedition,'' said the message.
Petraeus denounced the ''thugs with no soul'' who have targeted
Shiite pilgrims. ''We share the horror'' of witnessing the suicide
bombings and shootings, he said.
He said U.S. forces are ready to help provide additional security
for the pilgrims if asked by Iraqi authorities.
''It is an enormous task to protect all of them and there is a point
at which if someone is willing to blow up himself ... the problem
becomes very, very difficult indeed,'' he said.
Security forces in Karbala have taken unprecedented measures,
including checkpoints for top-to-bottom searches and a six-ring
cordon around the two main Shiite shrines. At least 10,000 policemen
have been placed on round-the-clock patrols.
''All the city's entrances have been secured, and I call upon the
pilgrims to follow the instructions of the security forces and let
them do the necessary searches,'' Iraq's minister of state for
national security, Sherwan al-Waili, said in Karbala.
In Baghdad, a mortar attack shattered some windows at the Iraqi
Airways office on the airport compound, but the shells landed
hundreds of yards from the passenger terminal and caused no serious
flight disruptions.
Such attacks, however, send chills through Iraqi officials preparing
to host an international conference Saturday on ways to help rebuild
and stabilize the country.
The meeting will bring Iran and the United States to the same table
for the first time in more than two years. Washington cut diplomatic
ties with Tehran after the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radicals
in the wake the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
The United States has accused Iran of backing anti-American Shiite
militants in Iraq, has detained Iranian officials there and has
angered Tehran by beefing up its military presence in the Persian
Gulf. Washington is also pushing for new sanctions on Iran over its
nuclear program.
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday that his
country hoped ''the conference will bring forward the end of the
presence of foreign forces'' in Iraq -- reiterating Tehran's stance
that U.S. troops should withdraw.
The Surge troops don't arrive until May.
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The strategy has arrived and has been in place for weeks.
21,500 bush,jr requested is now 27,00 with Petraeus asking for more.
This is a bottomless pit.
The violence is unabated. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: How's the "surge" going? |
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"Avidbuff" <avidbuff@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173359651.108993.28220@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
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On Mar 8, 4:56 am, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
March 8, 2007
U.S.: Iraqi Insurgent Attacks Intensifying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 7:18 a.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)
Military force alone is ''not sufficient'' to end the violence in Iraq
and
political talks must eventually include some militant groups now opposing
the U.S.-backed government, the new commander of U.S. forces in Iraq said
Thursday.
''This is critical,'' U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said in his first news
conference since taking over command last month. He noted that such
political negotiations ''will determine in the long run the success of
this
effort.''
American troops have stepped up efforts to clear and secure major
highways
around the capital as part of the Baghdad security crackdown, which began
last month. The Pentagon has pledged 17,500 combat troops for the
capital.
Petraeus said Thursday ''it was very likely'' that additional U.S. forces
will be sent to areas outside the capital where militant groups are
regrouping, including the Diyala province northeast of Baghdad.
The region has become an increasingly important staging ground for groups
including al-Qaida in Iraq. Meanwhile, many Sunni extremists apparently
have
shifted to Diyala to escape the Baghdad clampdown.
Petraeus declined to predict the size of the expected Diyala
reinforcements.
One of Iraq's most expansive militias -- the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite
cleric Muqtada al-Sadr -- appears to have set aside its weapons under
intense government pressure to lend support to the Baghdad security plan.
Mahdi militiamen also have allowed Iraqi authorities to try to protect at
least 1 million pilgrims heading to Karbala, about 50 miles south of
Baghdad.
Many are making the traditional trek on foot for rituals beginning Friday
to
mark the end of a 40-day mourning period for Imam Hussein, grandson of
the
Prophet Muhammad. Hussein's death in a 7th-century battle near Karbala
cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites.
The processions have proved to be vulnerable targets, with attacks
killing
more than 170 people this week.
Al-Sadr issued a statement urging pilgrims to join in chants denouncing
the
attackers. ''I ask almighty God to protect you from the sectarian
sedition,'' said the message.
Petraeus denounced the ''thugs with no soul'' who have targeted Shiite
pilgrims. ''We share the horror'' of witnessing the suicide bombings and
shootings, he said.
He said U.S. forces are ready to help provide additional security for the
pilgrims if asked by Iraqi authorities.
''It is an enormous task to protect all of them and there is a point at
which if someone is willing to blow up himself ... the problem becomes
very,
very difficult indeed,'' he said.
Security forces in Karbala have taken unprecedented measures, including
checkpoints for top-to-bottom searches and a six-ring cordon around the
two
main Shiite shrines. At least 10,000 policemen have been placed on
round-the-clock patrols.
''All the city's entrances have been secured, and I call upon the
pilgrims
to follow the instructions of the security forces and let them do the
necessary searches,'' Iraq's minister of state for national security,
Sherwan al-Waili, said in Karbala.
In Baghdad, a mortar attack shattered some windows at the Iraqi Airways
office on the airport compound, but the shells landed hundreds of yards
from
the passenger terminal and caused no serious flight disruptions.
Such attacks, however, send chills through Iraqi officials preparing to
host
an international conference Saturday on ways to help rebuild and
stabilize
the country.
The meeting will bring Iran and the United States to the same table for
the
first time in more than two years. Washington cut diplomatic ties with
Tehran after the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radicals in the wake the
1979 Islamic Revolution.
The United States has accused Iran of backing anti-American Shiite
militants
in Iraq, has detained Iranian officials there and has angered Tehran by
beefing up its military presence in the Persian Gulf. Washington is also
pushing for new sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program.
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday that his
country
hoped ''the conference will bring forward the end of the presence of
foreign
forces'' in Iraq -- reiterating Tehran's stance that U.S. troops should
withdraw.
The Surge troops don't arrive until May.
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They've been on their way a LONG time.
Is this Bush's Mars project?
Surge Troops Depart Ft Riley
KAKE, KS - Feb 8, 2007 |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: How's the "surge" going? |
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Democrats never said that.
We said it was doomed to failure.
bush,jr asked for 21,500....now its up to
27,000 and Petraeaus is asking for more.
Iraq is a bottomless pit
Horatio Fudruckerton wrote from the basement of the Naval Observatory:
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You can't be talking about *the* surge. You liberals stated that you
would NEVER allow the surge to take place. What happened ?
Did you lose to George W. Bush once again ? :)
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:56:05 -0500, "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:
March 8, 2007
U.S.: Iraqi Insurgent Attacks Intensifying
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 7:18 a.m. ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)
Military force alone is ''not sufficient'' to end the violence in
Iraq and political talks must eventually include some militant
groups now opposing the U.S.-backed government, the new commander of
U.S. forces in Iraq said Thursday.
''This is critical,'' U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said in his first news
conference since taking over command last month. He noted that such
political negotiations ''will determine in the long run the success
of this effort.''
American troops have stepped up efforts to clear and secure major
highways around the capital as part of the Baghdad security
crackdown, which began last month. The Pentagon has pledged 17,500
combat troops for the capital.
Petraeus said Thursday ''it was very likely'' that additional U.S.
forces will be sent to areas outside the capital where militant
groups are regrouping, including the Diyala province northeast of
Baghdad.
The region has become an increasingly important staging ground for
groups including al-Qaida in Iraq. Meanwhile, many Sunni extremists
apparently have shifted to Diyala to escape the Baghdad clampdown.
Petraeus declined to predict the size of the expected Diyala
reinforcements.
One of Iraq's most expansive militias -- the Mahdi Army of radical
Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr -- appears to have set aside its
weapons under intense government pressure to lend support to the
Baghdad security plan.
Mahdi militiamen also have allowed Iraqi authorities to try to
protect at least 1 million pilgrims heading to Karbala, about 50
miles south of Baghdad.
Many are making the traditional trek on foot for rituals beginning
Friday to mark the end of a 40-day mourning period for Imam Hussein,
grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. Hussein's death in a 7th-century
battle near Karbala cemented the schism between Sunnis and Shiites.
The processions have proved to be vulnerable targets, with attacks
killing more than 170 people this week.
Al-Sadr issued a statement urging pilgrims to join in chants
denouncing the attackers. ''I ask almighty God to protect you from
the sectarian sedition,'' said the message.
Petraeus denounced the ''thugs with no soul'' who have targeted
Shiite pilgrims. ''We share the horror'' of witnessing the suicide
bombings and shootings, he said.
He said U.S. forces are ready to help provide additional security
for the pilgrims if asked by Iraqi authorities.
''It is an enormous task to protect all of them and there is a point
at which if someone is willing to blow up himself ... the problem
becomes very, very difficult indeed,'' he said.
Security forces in Karbala have taken unprecedented measures,
including checkpoints for top-to-bottom searches and a six-ring
cordon around the two main Shiite shrines. At least 10,000 policemen
have been placed on round-the-clock patrols.
''All the city's entrances have been secured, and I call upon the
pilgrims to follow the instructions of the security forces and let
them do the necessary searches,'' Iraq's minister of state for
national security, Sherwan al-Waili, said in Karbala.
In Baghdad, a mortar attack shattered some windows at the Iraqi
Airways office on the airport compound, but the shells landed
hundreds of yards from the passenger terminal and caused no serious
flight disruptions.
Such attacks, however, send chills through Iraqi officials preparing
to host an international conference Saturday on ways to help rebuild
and stabilize the country.
The meeting will bring Iran and the United States to the same table
for the first time in more than two years. Washington cut diplomatic
ties with Tehran after the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radicals
in the wake the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
The United States has accused Iran of backing anti-American Shiite
militants in Iraq, has detained Iranian officials there and has
angered Tehran by beefing up its military presence in the Persian
Gulf. Washington is also pushing for new sanctions on Iran over its
nuclear program.
Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday that his
country hoped ''the conference will bring forward the end of the
presence of foreign forces'' in Iraq -- reiterating Tehran's stance
that U.S. troops should withdraw.
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Democrats never said that.
We said it was doomed to failure.
bush,jr asked for 21,500....now its up to
27,000 and Petraeaus is asking for more.
Iraq is a bottomless pit |
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