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 Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
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South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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If you were on the waiting list for a kidney, you'd think that was a
GREAT idea. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:03 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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Blazing Laser wrote:
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If you were on the waiting list for a kidney, you'd think that was a
GREAT idea.
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Why not just offer 10 or 20 Gs to anyone willing to sell a kidney?
Isn't that how the free market is supposed to work? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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NeverExpectPowerAlways <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in news:NQ1Ih.3164
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Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
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I[m not sure which is worse
; the very idea of doing this or that a kidney is only worth six months of
someone's life.
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"As Americans, we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an
enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the
federal government." - Dave Barry |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:03:44 GMT, NeverExpectPowerAlways
<don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote:
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Blazing Laser wrote:
If you were on the waiting list for a kidney, you'd think that was a
GREAT idea.
Why not just offer 10 or 20 Gs to anyone willing to sell a kidney?
Isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?
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You can go to India or Bangledesh or Bangkok and do that (and not
nearly that expensive!) In the US we don't consider it quite
civilized.
But also, in the US organ transplant is done only in teaching
hospitals and only under Medicare. So even if you -could- buy a
kidney, you'd have a $40k operation to pay for, plus follow-up care in
the 10s of thousands.
The attitude of capitalism is that only the rich -deserve-
transplants. Luckily we've already grown past that in the US. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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Jim Alder wrote:
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NeverExpectPowerAlways <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in news:NQ1Ih.3164
$tv6.2798@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
I[m not sure which is worse
; the very idea of doing this or that a kidney is only worth six months of
someone's life.
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I can't imagine anyone in their right mind selling an organ for six months.
I would hold out for at least five years. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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NeverExpectPowerAlways wrote:
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Jim Alder wrote:
NeverExpectPowerAlways <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in
news:NQ1Ih.3164
$tv6.2798@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
I[m not sure which is worse
; the very idea of doing this or that a kidney is only worth six
months of someone's life.
I can't imagine anyone in their right mind selling an organ for six months.
I would hold out for at least five years.
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I have heard of US prisons where inmates got a month or two off of
their time for donating blood.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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Blazing Laser wrote:
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:03:44 GMT, NeverExpectPowerAlways
don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote:
Blazing Laser wrote:
If you were on the waiting list for a kidney, you'd think that was a
GREAT idea.
Why not just offer 10 or 20 Gs to anyone willing to sell a kidney?
Isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?
You can go to India or Bangledesh or Bangkok and do that (and not
nearly that expensive!) In the US we don't consider it quite
civilized.
But also, in the US organ transplant is done only in teaching
hospitals and only under Medicare. So even if you -could- buy a
kidney, you'd have a $40k operation to pay for, plus follow-up care in
the 10s of thousands.
The attitude of capitalism is that only the rich -deserve-
transplants. Luckily we've already grown past that in the US.
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But it seems we are not above contemplating holding out an offer to
prison inmates of a six-month reduction in sentence in exchange for a
kidney. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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George Grapman wrote:
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NeverExpectPowerAlways wrote:
Jim Alder wrote:
NeverExpectPowerAlways <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in
news:NQ1Ih.3164
$tv6.2798@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
I[m not sure which is worse
; the very idea of doing this or that a kidney is only worth six
months of someone's life.
I can't imagine anyone in their right mind selling an organ for six months.
I would hold out for at least five years.
I have heard of US prisons where inmates got a month or two off of
their time for donating blood.
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Donating blood is one thing. I've done that for a cookie and a glass of
juice and the chance to be close to pretty stranger for a few minutes. A
few hours and your body replaces the blood that was removed.
But donating a kidney or part of your liver... that's serious business. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:49:34 -0800, NeverExpectPowerAlways
<don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote:
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The attitude of capitalism is that only the rich -deserve-
transplants. Luckily we've already grown past that in the US.
But it seems we are not above contemplating holding out an offer to
prison inmates of a six-month reduction in sentence in exchange for a
kidney.
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It sounds a little strange, I know, but people do donate kidneys
voluntarily. So long as the kidney isn't sold to the highest bidder,
I don't have a problem with inmates getting a sentence reduction. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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"NeverExpectPowerAlways" <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in message
news:NQ1Ih.3164$tv6.2798@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
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Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
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I wonder what they would get for selling their assholes...Wait a
minute....Most of 'em ARE assholes, that's why they're incarcerated.... |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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"NeverExpectPowerAlways" <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in message
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George Grapman wrote:
NeverExpectPowerAlways wrote:
Jim Alder wrote:
NeverExpectPowerAlways <don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote in
news:NQ1Ih.3164
$tv6.2798@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net:
Doesn't China harvest organs from prison inmates?
*************************************************
South Carolina Lawmakers Consider Cutting Prison Time for Inmates Who
Donate Organs
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Inmates in South Carolina could soon find that a
kidney is worth 180 days.
Lawmakers are considering legislation that would let prisoners donate
organs or bone marrow in exchange for time off their sentences.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257961,00.html
I[m not sure which is worse
; the very idea of doing this or that a kidney is only worth six
months of someone's life.
I can't imagine anyone in their right mind selling an organ for six
months.
I would hold out for at least five years.
I have heard of US prisons where inmates got a month or two off of
their time for donating blood.
Donating blood is one thing. I've done that for a cookie and a glass of
juice and the chance to be close to pretty stranger for a few minutes. A
few hours and your body replaces the blood that was removed.
But donating a kidney or part of your liver... that's serious business.
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They could solve the inmate overcrowding problem by getting them to donate
their hearts... |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:53:41 -0800, NeverExpectPowerAlways
<don't_even_ask@noway.com> wrote:
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Donating blood is one thing. I've done that for a cookie and a glass of
juice and the chance to be close to pretty stranger for a few minutes. A
few hours and your body replaces the blood that was removed.
But donating a kidney or part of your liver... that's serious business.
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Having a kidney removed is a MUCH more serious business than having
one implanted. When they take a kidney out they have to make an
incision that goes about halfway around the abdomen. But to
transplant one they only make a little hole in front, above the hip,
and stick the kidney in there and hook it up in parallel to the blood
supply and the ureter. When one person donates a kidney to another,
the donor is usually in the hospital for two weeks while the recipient
is up and dancing around in three or four days. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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On Mar 8, 5:42 pm, Blazing Laser wrote:
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But also, in the US organ transplant is done only in teaching
hospitals and only under Medicare.
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Got proof? No? I didn't think so.
sigh. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Donate a kidney - get out of jail |
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On 8 Mar 2007 20:23:11 -0800, "Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com>
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On Mar 8, 5:42 pm, Blazing Laser wrote:
But also, in the US organ transplant is done only in teaching
hospitals and only under Medicare.
Got proof? No? I didn't think so.
sigh.
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Now why would I make something like that up?
Look it up! Know anyone who has a transplant? I know several. |
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